Fox Business – Melissa Francis – Time To Buy The Market


IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY MELISSA: OUR TOP STORY TONIGHT, THERE IS NO STOPPING THE WALL STREET RALLY. THE DOW CLOSEDED AT A RECORD HIGH FOR THE 7th DAY IN A ROW AT 14,455. SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? WHERE IS YOUR MONEY RIGHT NOW? TODAY’S POWER PANEL IS HERE WITH WHAT THE AVERAGE INVESTOR SHOULD BE MAKING OF ALL THIS LANCE ROBERTS, CHIEF ECONOMISTND CEO OF STREET TALK ADVISORS. SPENCER PATTON, CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER AT STEEL VINE INVESTMENTS. YOU RECOGNINIZE JONATHAN HOENIG, HE IS PORTFOLIO MANAGER MANAGER AT CAPITALIST PIG.COM AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR. THANKS TO ALL THREE OF YOU FOR JOINING US. LANCE, LET ME START WITH YOU. THE AVERAGE PERSON IS WATCHING THIS AND HEARING RECORD, RECORD, RECORD. SAYING WHAT AM I MISSING? WHAT ARE THEY MISSING?>>WELL OBVIOUSLY THEY’RE MISSING THE MARKET GOING UP BUT THERE IS KIND OF THIS ASSUMPTION THAT THE AVERAGE INVESTOR HAS BEEN OUT OF THE MARKET THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS NOW AND NOW THEY’RE JUST KIND OF WAKING UP. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE INVESTED –. MELISSA: YOU DON’T THINK SO?>>NO, IT IS NOT. IF YOU LOOK AT LOT OF DATA, ONLY 20% OF THE AMERICANS ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE MARKET ANYWAY. THE BULK OF THOSE ARE INVEED FOR THE MOST PART. THEY’RE IN THE MARKETS. THEY’RE PARTICIPATING AND, YOU KNOW THE ISSUE REALLY BECOMES THOUGH WE HAVE TO LOOK AT RISK HERE. WE’VE OBVIOUSLY GOT THE FED INDUCING MARKETS. 85 BILLION A MONTH. MELISSA: RIGHT.>>DRIVING THESE MARKET PRICES HIGHER. THAT’S FINE. NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. MARGIN DEBT IS BACK AT LEVELS WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE 2007. MELISSA: YEAH.>>YOU HAVE HIGH YIELD CREDIT, HIGH YIELD CREDIT YIELDS ARE ATHE LOWEST LEVEL ON RECORD. WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THE YIELD CHASE AND RISK IS DEFINITELY THERE. SO YOU JUST WANT TO BE MORE CAUTIOUS WHERE YOU GO TOO FROM HERE. MELISSA: J JONATHAN, I’M THINKING ONE IN FOUR AMERICANS WHO TAPPED INTO THEIR 401(k) TO TRY TO PAY THEIR BILLS OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME. I’M ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO STOPPED CONTRIBUTING TO THE 401(k) WHEN THEY SAW THE MARKET TANK BECSE THEY GOT NERVOUS ABOUT IT. THEY’RE WAKING BACK UP TO WHAT IS GOING ON AND SEEING THEY MISSED TH RIDE UP. WHAT WOULD YOU TELL THE PEOPLE DO NOW?>>GET OUT OF THE HABIT MAKING INVESTING ALL OR NONE DECISION. YOUR POINT SPEAKS TO THAT EXACTLY. GO BACK TO 2009, 2010. INVESTORS OBOUSLY BECAME VERY SCARED AND A LOT OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL VESTORS UNFORTUNATELY PULLED ALL THEIR MONEY OUT OF THE MARKET. WE’RE AT ALL-TIME HIGHS ON THE DOW. WE’RE STARTING TO SEE THAT TRICKLE IN. I DISAGREE SLIGHTLY WITH OUR GUEST. WE HAVEE SEEN ESPECIALLY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, COME OUT STOCKS GO INTO BOND AND INTO GOLD. MELISSA: I AGREE.>>MARKET HAS BEEN UP NINE DAYS IN A ROW. I THINK THE TREND STILL CONTINUES. I SEE HIGHER PRICES FOR STOCKS DESPITE THE RUN WE’VE HAD. MELISSA: SPENCER DO YOU THINK THE RETAIL INVESTOR IS ON THE SIDELINE AND WHAT SHOULD THEY BE DOING?>>I THINK WE SEE MORE RETAIL INVESTORS IN BONDS SIGNIFICANTLY. AND THERE IS CHU ON THE SIDELINES. WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO DO IS WAKE UP THE FACT THEY HAVE LOST A LOT O OF PURCHASING POWER LAST FIVEEARS. GASOLINE IS $4 A GALLON WHERE IT WAS AT TWO. GOLD WAS $750 AN OUNCE. NOW IT IS AT 1500. THEY NEED TO GET INTO REAL ASSETS. BUY THINGS LIKE REAL ESTATE. GET INVESTED INTO AGRICULTURE. GET INTO THINGS THAT WILL ESERVE THE PURCHASING POWER. DO NOT BUY THE MARKET ONCE IT IS UP NINE CONSECUTIVE DAYS THE LONGEST IN 16 YES. YOU WILL WAKE UP AND REGRET IT IN THE MORNING. PLEASE RUN AND DON’T MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN HERE. MELISSA: LANCE, IS THAT GOOD ADVICE? THAT IS A GOOD POINT. YOU’VE LOST A LOT OF PURCHASINGNG P POWER. THE FED IS JUST GOING TO KEEPEP DOING WHAT THEY’RE DOING. SO ITEMS IS A LIKE THAT TREND COULD CONTINUE. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE IN LIGHT OF THAT?>>I THINK IT IS GREAT. ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOUR GUESTS OVER THE LAST TWO POINTS. I CALL THIS THE TAYLOR SWIFT MARKET BECAUSE THEY TREAT THIS LIKE A BAD RELATIONSHIP. WHEN IT DOESN’T WORK OUT BAIL O AT WORST TIME AND TRY TO GET BACK IN AT THE TOP. MELISSA: YES.>>BUT THE REALITY I AGREE WITH BOTHINGS LOOK THE MARKETS ARE VERY EXTENDED HERE. THERE IS RISK. YOU WANT TO BUY O ON CORRECTIONS. AGAIN, AGREE WITH JONATHAN, YOU DON’T WANT TO GO ALL OUT OF THE MARKET OR ALL-IN. IT IS NEVER GOOD. YOU CAN NOT TIME THE MARKETS. IN RESPECT TO YOUR SECOND GUEST, STEVE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, IT IS ABOUT ASSET ALLOCATION. STOCKS ARE A FINE PLACE TO BE WHEN ALL THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE IN PLACE BUT EARNINGS ARE DETERIORATING. RISK IS HIGH. AND PEOPLE ARE CHASING STOCKS BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING UP. BUT LOOK, THERE IS SOME GREAT PLACES TO PUT MONEY. BOND PRICES HAVE ACTUALLY DECLINED OVER LAST COUPLE MONTHS WHICH HAVE GIVEN GOOD OPPORTUNITIES IN THE BBB RATED SPACE. THERE IS GREAT OPPORTUNITY, GOLD HAD A GREAT DECLINE OVER LAST FEW MONTHS. VERY, VERY OVERSOLD. THIS IS THE MOST OVERSOLD GOLD HAS BEEN IN LAST THREE YEARS. THIS IS GOOD OPPORTUNITY. MELISSA: I WANT TO ASK EACH OF YOU IN REALLY PLAIN LANGUAGE. IF PEOPLE HAVE MONEY SITTING ON THE SIDINES RIGHT NOW AND THEY’RE TCHING THIS RECORD DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY, WOULD YOU ADD MONEY TO STOCKS RIGHT HERE? I’M GOING THROUGH EVERYONE. JOJONATHAN, WOULD YOU START FIRST. WOULD YOADD MONEY TO START HERE?>>ABSOLUTELY, MELISSA. THE BEST INDICATOR OF THE MARKET IS THE MARKET. SO I DON’T BELIEVE AS THE OTHER GUESTAS SAID, I DON’T BELIEVE YOYOU BUYUY ON DIPS, BUY ON CORRECTIONS. YOU NEVER KNOW IF THE CORRECTION IS BEGINNING OF SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL, SOMETHING MORE SERIOUS. I BELIEVE IN BUYING STRENGTH. RIGHT NOW, LOOK AT STOCKS, BOND AND GOLD UNQUESTIONABLY, STOCKS IS THE BEST ASSET CLASS TO HAVE YOUR MONEY?>>DON’T BUY NOW. YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU BUY AT PEAKS, YOU BUYY ON CORRECTIONS. THAT IS WHAT DATA IN THE PAST SHOWN. BUY WHEN THINGS ARE CHEAP. DON’T BUY AT THE VERY TOP. MELISSA: I’M THOROUGHLY CONFUSED. LANCE YOU WILL BE THE DEAL BREAKER, THE TIEBAKER. WHAT DO YOU THINK?>>LOOK THE BOTTOM LNE IS, THAT MARKETS ARE VERY OVERBOUGHT. THEY ARE GOING TO PULL BACK AT SOME POINT. MAYBE THIS SUMMER. BUY ON CORRECTIONS. BUY ON WEAKNESS. THAT IS WHEN YOU MAKE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY. BUYING NOW, YOU’RE GUARANTEED IN THE NEXT THREE TO FOU MONTHS VALUES WILL BE LOWER THAN THEY ARE TODAY. MELISSA: JONATHAN, YOU’RE ODD MAN OUT NOW. I’LL LET YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD TO MAKE YOUR CASE.>>I MEAN, IDEA OF BUYING ON CORRECTIONS, MELISSA, YOU GO BACK TO 2007. YOU WOULD HAVE BOUGHT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO A 50% CORRECTION IN THE DOW. I IN FACT DON’T SEE THAT NOW. THE MARKET MOVES IN TRENDS. THAT IS THE BEST INDICATOR WE HAVE. RIGHT NOW YES, OF COURSE THE MARKET WILL GO DOWN ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE. IT WILL NOT GO UP FOREVER. I THINK IT IS BEST ASSET CLASS YOU CAN HAVE. STOCKS ARE LIKE SUSHI. YOU DON’T WANT A BARGAIN. DON’T WANT THEM ON SALE. BUY QUALITY, BUY STRENGTH. TREND TEND TO PERSIST. MELISSA: WHAT YOU LEARN IS SOMETHING WE LEARN EVERY TIME THERE IS BIG STOCK MARKET CRASH LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN ’08. THAT IF YOU GET OUT AT HUGE CRASH YOU’RE ALWAYS SORRY LATER SO IT COMES BACK.

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