Robert Ray on Trump’s possible removal from office: ‘It’s not going to happen’


DUELING BILLIONAIRES. WHY NOT? SUSAN: WHITE HOUSE, PRESIDENCY. STUART: LET’S GET SERIOUS. HOUSE SPEAKER PELOSI FACED HEAVY CRITICISM FOR HOLDING UP THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT. THE SPEAKER DEFENDING HER DECISION TO DELAY OVER THE WEEKEND. WATCH THIS.>>WHY NOT WAIT FOR THE COURTS TO RULE?>>BECAUSE IT WILL BE, HOW LONG DO THE COURTS TAKE? WE HAD, WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR CASE, THAT IT IS IMPEACHABLE, THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS IMPEACHED FOR LIFE, REGARDLESS OF ANY GAMESMANSHIP ON THE PART OF MITCH McCONNELL. STUART: WELL LOOK WHO IS WITH US NOW. ROBERT RAY, FORMER WHITEWATER INDEPENDENT COUNSEL. SEEMS TO ME, ROBERT, IF I MAKE THE JUDGMENT, SPEAKER PELOSI HAS CAVED.>>LOOK WHO IS PLAYING GAMES? THIS IS FOUR WEEKS AFTER THE ARTICLES LIKELY TO COME OVER. WHAT DID SHE GET FOR ALL OF THIS? SHE DIDN’T GET ANYTHING FROM MITCH McCONNELL. MITCH McCONNELL SAID YOU’RE NOT GOING TO GET A SNEAK PEEK AT THE SENATE RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE THE RULES OF THE ROAD IN THE SENATE. YOU’RE KNOT GOING TO GET A PRIOR COMMITMENT WITH REGARD TO WITNESSES. AND ALL DURING THIS FOUR-WEEK DELAY, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DID NOTHING. THEY DIDN’T SUBPOENA ANY FURTHER TESTIMONY FROM INCLUDING AMONG OTHERS MR. BOLTON. THEY DIDN’T FURTHER LITIGATE WITH REGARD TO ISSUES THAT THEY COULD HAVE LITIGATED. IT IS NOT AS IF COURTS DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO PRESSING MATTERS UNDER EMERGENCY APPLICATIONS OR WRITS OF MANDAMUS IN ORDER TO GET ANSWERS. SO THEY DEFERRED ON THAT. THEY NOW ARE TRYING TO ATTEMPT TO BLAME THE UNITED STATES SENATE AND MITCH McCONNELL FOR THE LAST REMAINING ARGUMENT THEY CAN MAKE WHICH IS THAT THE PROCESS ISN’T FAIR AND IT’S A TERRIBLE THING THAT WE’RE GOING FORWARD HERE. AND IF THE PRESIDENT CHOOSES TO GO FORWARD IN THIS WAY, IT AMOUNTS TO A COVERUP. STUART: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS POLITICAL BUST.>>I THINK THAT’S RIGHT. I MEAN, I DON’T THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY THAT ARGUMENT. NOW, LOOK, WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A PROCESS HERE AND WE’RE PRETTY SOON GOING TO BE IN THAT PROCESS. I IMAGINE AS SOON AS WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK. AND THEN WE’LL SEE. STUART: NEXT WEEK?>>YES. STUART: WHEN DOES THE TRIAL LIKELY START?>>I THINK THE TRIAL, PROCEDURAL THINGS NEED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED, FORMAL PRESENTATION OF THE ARTICLES, PRESIDENT’S ANSWER, APPOINTMENT OF IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS, ASSEMBLY OF THE PRESIDENT’S DEFENSE TEAM. THAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK. I THINK MAJOR FESTIVITIES IF YOU WILL, WILL HAPPEN THE DAY AFTER THE MARTIN LUTHER KING HOLIDAY WHICH IS ON TUESDAY NEXT WEEK. STUART: THOSE SENATORS INVOLVED IN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENCY.>>THEY WILL BE TIED UP. THEY WILL BE ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE. THEY WILL BE GAGGED, MEANING THEY DON’T HAVE A SPEAKING ROLE IN THE PROCESS. THEY DON’T HAVE A ROLE UNTIL THEY SUBMIT QUESTIONS. THEY ARE TIED TO THE SENATE UNTIL THE SENATE TRIAL RESOLVES ITSELF. STUART: NO WAY IN YOUR OPINION THIS PRESIDENT WILL BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE FOLLOWING THE SENATE TRIAL?>>IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. ALTHOUGH THERE MAY NOT BE AT THIS POINT THE VOTES TO ACTUALLY DISMISS THIS OUTRIGHT, I THINK YOU CAN LOOK FOR SUMMARY PROCEEDINGS IN THE UNITED STATES, IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE WITHOUT WITNESSES TO RESOLVE THIS. I BELIEVE THAT MITCH McCONNELL HAS THE VOTES TO DO THAT. STUART: IT WILL BE DONE.>>YES. STUART: ROBERT RAY, I’M SORRY WE’RE SO SHORT, BIG NEWS DAY. HOPE YOU JOIN US.